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yakov_a_jerkov — 04.10.2019 Поток новостей, связанных с попытками Трампа добиться от иностранных правительств расследований его внутриполитических противников, все усиливается. Но сама суть дела -- чего именно Трамп хотел добиться от Зеленского -- уже не является предметом спора.

Сегодня утром Трамп вышел на лужайку перед Белым Домом и, отвечая на вопрос журналиста именно о том, чего он хотел от Зеленского, прямо ответил, что хотел он major investigation into the Bidens. И добавил, что Китай тоже должен Байденов расследовать.

REPORTER: What exactly did you hope Zelensky would do about the Bidens after your phone call? Exactly.

TRUMP: Well, I would think that if they were honest about it, they'd start a major investigation into the Bidens. It is a very simple answer. [...]

And, by the way, likewise China should start an ivestigation into the Bidens. Because what happened with China is about as bad as what happened with Ukraine. [...]

Я приведу тут отрывок с Чаком Тоддом (видео процитированного ответа Трампа там тоже есть). Если кто не знает, Тодд уж никак не радикал.

WATCH: President Trump calls on China to investigate political rival. #MTPDaily@chucktodd: “I don't say this lightly, but let’s be frank: a national nightmare is upon us. The basic rules of our democracy are under attack, from the president.” pic.twitter.com/V3ww1O6lI9

— Meet the Press (@MeetThePress) October 3, 2019

Это было утром. С тех пор появилось множество других новостей.

Ушедший на днях в отставку представитель США в Украине,Волкер, сегодня проходил/имел deposition в Конгрессе. В процессе выяснилось немало нового -- Trump Envoys Pushed Ukraine to Commit to Investigations:

Two of President Trump’s top envoys to Ukraine drafted a statement for the country’s new president in August that would have committed Ukraine to pursuing investigations sought by Mr. Trump into his political rivals, three people briefed on the effort said.

[...]

Mr. Volker spent Thursday on Capitol Hill being questioned by House investigators as Democrats pursued their impeachment inquiry into Mr. Trump’s actions. He disclosed a set of texts in September in which William B. Taylor Jr., the top American diplomat in Ukraine, alluded to Mr. Trump’s decision earlier in the summer to freeze a military aid package to the country. He told Mr. Sondland and Mr. Volker: “I think it’s crazy to withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign.”

After speaking with Mr. Trump, Mr. Sondland texted back that there was no quid pro quo, adding, “I suggest we stop the back and forth by text.”

[...]

The statement was written with the awareness of a top aide to the Ukrainian president, as well as Rudolph W. Giuliani, Mr. Trump’s personal lawyer and the de facto leader of a shadow campaign to push the Ukrainians to press ahead with investigations, according to one of the people briefed on it.

The statement would have committed Ukraine to investigating the energy company Burisma, which had employed Hunter Biden, the younger son of former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. And it would have called for the Ukrainian government to look into what Mr. Trump and his allies believe was interference by Ukrainians in the 2016 election in the United States to benefit Hillary Clinton.

Также выяснилось, что к Китаю по поводу Байденов Трамп тоже уже обращался, причем Уоррен он тоже упомянул.

Trump raised Biden with Xi in June call housed in highly secure server

During a phone call with Xi on June 18, Trump raised Biden's political prospects as well as those of Sen. Elizabeth Warren, who by then had started rising in the polls, according to two people familiar with the discussion. In that call, Trump also told Xi he would remain quiet on Hong Kong protests as trade talks progressed.

The White House record of that call was later stored in the highly secured electronic system used to house a now-infamous phone call with Ukraine's President and which helped spark a whistleblower complaint that's led Democrats to open an impeachment inquiry into Trump.

Asked earlier this week about Trump's call with Xi, the White House did not deny that he raised Biden.

Ну, вот такие дела. Конечно, можно расследовать и расследовать, но это на данный момент, по-моему, не принципиально. Трамп публично признает справедливость главного обвинения, вопрос в том, согласны ли американцы терпеть это поведение президента.

На данный момент, по-моему, очевидно, что Хаус объявит импичмент... Я, конечно, могу ошибаться, но я не вижу, как они могут этого не сделать. Республиканцы же пока или молчат, или заявляют что-то типа "а что тут такого?"

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